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which one is cheaper and reliable? amazon EC2 or Digital ocean? I don't have much subscirbers yet.
Both are reliable, but it will depend on you ability to keep them updated and secure.
Maybe Digital Ocean is cheaper on the long run but EC2 is free for one year, so...
That is the main reason we founded sendyhost.com for people that do not want to worry about that stuff. :)
I have recently install Sendy on Cloudways having DigitalOcean as my default server. You can use the same guide to install Sendy on cloud or VPS servers.
I use a small SSD VPS Server from Brontobytes
Dreamhost on a shared server. But I'm having some issues with cron :(
Follow-up for dreamhost users: If sending is slow, you need to get a VPS for $15/month. Then follow their instructions to make a phprc file (http://wiki.dreamhost.com/PHP.ini) and use these settings:
max_execution_time = 300
max_input_time = -1
memory_limit = 512M
upload_max_filesize = 2M
post_max_size = 2M
Punted on dreamhost and moved to Digital Ocean.
I have recently moved my Sendy to hubuco.com. Works perfect 28mail/sec.
I am using Siteground - biggest problem I had was with Sitegrounds cron restriction - cron job can run just twice an hour!
Rather than using an external cron for autoresponders.php, I opted to modify the code so that it could be run once and hour (on the hour) via cron. The below small change to autoresponders.php enables it to be run just once an hour and sends out all email scheduled within the previous hour. Basically, email can be delayed by up to 1 hour, but ok for me. My main use case for sendy is autoresponder for selling digital subscription from my site.
//if join date matches autoresponder options
$check_time = $time - $join_date_with_tc;
/if($time == $join_date_with_tc)/
if($check_time >= 1 && $check_time <= 3600)
Proxmox LXC container with ZFS as storage. It is extremely fast.
I have tested Digital Ocean 20$ and 40$ droplets also Amazon T2.Medium Ubuntu, T2.Micro AMI instance.
Here are some result of test for 10,000 emails with Amazon AWS 200 emails/sec rate
So here what i thinks, first Amazon Linux Ami t2.micro instance's sendy email sending speed is very fast since it is their own custom build system.
To have same sending speed on Amazon Ubuntu, i had to use t2.Medium instance with 2cpu, 4Gb ram.
For both Digital Ocean droplets, even their performances are different, i got same sending time, i checked CPU, RAM usage but it seems their CPU usage never gets higher then 50%.
in conclusion, you could go with amazon t2.micro linux AMI instance with one year free plan, instead of paying 20$, 40$ each month and you will still get high sending rate.
My actual sending rate max was 23 ( 10000 / (7 * 60) ) emails per second with AWS 200 per sec rate configured.
For future maybe, we need to resolve how to use CPU at their maximum performance for burstable instance in order to approach same actual and permitted sending rate.
An addition to my post re: using bitnami lamp stack on amazon ec2 t2.micro size.
I asked Amazon SES to increase my send rate from 20 to 50 per second and the t2.micro seems capable of keeping up with this rate towards SES and has definitely decreased the time it takes to send a campaign out.
So EC2 t2.micro seems like a usesable cheap option for Sendy.
I'm using EC2 Free Tier with Docker and Caddy as the Web Server which includes free HTTPS
I am hosting Sendy on Digital Ocean Droplet managed by Cloudways. I am hosting one Wordpress blog, one Woocommerce site and Sendy on the same server. All these three apps are installed on 2GB DO server managed by cloudways. I pay $34 for the server.
I had a miserable time with the cronjob not working properly on an older DreamHost VPS. Per advice here, I upgraded to the latest $15/mo VPS server which for my needs, has more CPU, memory, and disk space than I could ever possibly use. The migration took about an hour or more (fully automated) and now Sendy behaves like a champ. Was able to send nearly 7,000 emails in an hour. Incredible!
You can consult the company on http://micraclouds.com/, Its one of the best for low price server and it gives you sendy installed.
Hi @Ben, Please suggest a hosting for sending emails to 100K/day. Amazon EC2 or any other providers.
Using www.jetcloud.in VPS and its super amazing.
LINODE with Serverpilot
We use Sendy on Amazon EC2 its great and we are using it from 3 Years, its great I tell you you should use it.
https://fastdot.com/ does the trick for me !
I'm using FastComet (https://www.fastcomet.com/) on a $6/mo plan. It's pretty good!
DigitalOcean, $5/month and very easy to set up with this tutorial: https://davekiss.com/create-your-own-mailchimp-clone-for-5-a-month-with-sendy/
@glaive99 - Wow thanks for that, I'm reading up on it. Do you happen to have a tutorial for Amazon EC2? I so want to install it there but I'm blank on how to do it having been used to Siteground's Cpanel and File Manager!
@suums I wrote down all my EC2 installation notes here: https://colcol.co.uk/introduction-to-installing-sendy-and-virtualmin-on-aws/
Latest Heroku installation instructions here: https://gist.github.com/lexjacobs/e447625dc856b1a21b125dbf821ad7d9
I got this working on a free heroku instance today, with the help of the existing community documentation. I edited/updated the gist based on my installation experience
Although I got sendy "working" on heroku, I don't think full functionality is possible due to heroku's 'ephemeral' filesystem. anything in /uploads may be destroyed upon dyno cycling. also, getting /uploads to remain set to 777 has been a non-trivial problem. I am looking into alternative server hosting now.
I'm sorry for the multiple posts. Heroku was not a good match. I ended up with a working installation on DigitalOcean. I spent a few days recording and retesting my install notes and documented them all here: https://medium.com/@alexjacobs/installing-sendy-as-a-replacement-for-mailchimp-2019-update-the-complete-guide-with-automated-5a59c4bd7249 . The guide includes a DigitalOcean signup link that will give you $100 credit.
Has anybody here ever used Easy Sendy? They've gone down 4 times in the last 5 months. I'm looking for another Sendy hosted solution and I'm curious as to if anyone here has used them before. I keep getting excuses as to why they can't keep servers running.
@Martine -- sorry, never used Easy Sendy and I don't have any Sendy hosted alternatives. You could always self host, after all Sendy was designed for self hosting. Probably cost you less in the long run going self hosted, and, once setup, the ongoing maintenance is not too much. Have a look at my guide a few posts earlier in this topic and see what you think. The instructions may seem daunting at first, but plough through and complete them, and you will feel a great sense of satisfaction at being able to wave goodbye to Easy Sendy etc. If you are a new AWS customer, your first 12 months of AWS usage should be trivial.
I have a 160K list. Im using Sendy on a hostgatorr shared hosting package. After 24 hours its still trying to send to the entire list and has only got through about 8000 of the list. What would you recommend i use to ensure my emails are sent out within at least a 24 hour period.
@humayun -- you need your own dedicated server for that size of list. Lots of different hosts available -- AWS, Digital Ocean, Linode etc. Check out this topic from the start for ideas. Sendy uses AWS SES, so AWS is an obvious option (especially with the 12-month free tier for new customers). AWS SES default is 14 emails/sec, so 160k should be done in less than 4 hours. Have a look at my guide a few posts earlier in this topic for setting up Sendy on AWS. The instructions may seem daunting at first, but plough through and complete them, and you will feel a great sense of satisfaction at being able to wave goodbye to Hostgator and very slow sending!
Hi. I'm interested in knowing if anyone here has ever had an issue with their hosting provider in using Sendy to send out emails, in particular for affiliate marketing? I was using a Sendy Hosted solution, but now think I'm just going to self host it and I want to know if I'm going to have an issue, like a lot of people have had with other providers like Mailchimp, etc. where they want to shut down your account, if you don't fit into their box.
Has anyone here ever had their server terminated from using Sendy? And are there any hosting services that have a "one-click install" for Sendy, like a lot of hosting companies have a "one-click install" for Wordpress?
Is anyone here actually still using Digital Ocean? I was going to set up something with them today, but then I started doing some research online and they have horrible reviews. Seems like their servers keep going down, bad customer service, etc.
@Martine -- email content issues depend on the email sending service.
For example, AWS SES has this Best Practice guide: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/best-practices.html The guide does not mention affiliate marketing specifically. I get the impression AWS will not interfere with your sending as long as you are sending proper content to people who have actively signed up for your emails. MailChimp I think study your emails in more detail and are more likely to raise issues.
One-click Sendy installs? Sendy was designed for self hosting, so demand for a Sendy hosting service may not be great. Which is perhaps why EasySendy hosting now appears to be focusing on a more comprehensive mail service and not perhaps on your needs :-( Also, I dare say Sendy Ben has already considered a Sendy hosting service -- and the fact that he has not set one up suggests somebody else will have a hard time to make it viable.
"One-click Sendy installs? Sendy was designed for self hosting"
Maybe an install script could be developed that sets up Sendy, MySQL, Lets Encrpyt etc along the lines of Discourse:
siteground for hosting, and configured a raspberrypi to handle the cronjobs - works great.
DigitalOcean. Relatedly, please support Nginx!
HostGator with Amazon SES. just over 300k a month at about $25--
I am using Sendybay for hosting. Works well so far.
I'm using Kinsta.com It's supposed to be a Wordpress only host, but Sendy is working perfectly on it.
I just rewrote/retested my installation guide on DigitalOcean for Sendy v4. Documented here: https://medium.com/@alexjacobs/installing-sendy-as-a-replacement-for-mailchimp-2019-version-4-update-the-complete-guide-with-a9358bbb2399 . The guide includes a DigitalOcean signup link that will give you $100 credit.
Using Siteground. Less hassles.
I'm using sendybay.com - setup was quick and easy and seems to work ok so far.
I used to use HostGator but now use Squidix.
We are hosted by an AWS EC2 t2.xlarge 8GB instance for a mailing list of 300k. Our approved send rate is 100/sec but the actual is ~40. We can run the entire list in about 2-hours.
We gave-up using tracking because it caused problems with server functions not working near the end of a run. When it freezes, it continues to send emails but we cannot access admin and it disables all the links (including the unsubscribe link). Even after the end of the run we can only get it working again by rebooting the server or sometimes even stopping and restarting the instance.
We have attempted to solve the problem by repeatedly bumping up the server but the problem persists even at $500 - $700 per mo.
I have my store hosted with Siteground currently, and have been using EasySendy. I'd like to run Sendy on my Siteground account, but need to be 100% sure it's going to work before I can leave EasySendy. So have they changed the cron situation that was mentioned back in 2016 so that it's not a problem now?
I use 365hosts.com - good pricing for unlimited plans